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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Brett</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1186</link>
		<author>Brett</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1186</guid>
		<description>I am going to stop stiring the pot now!
If you are wondering why I am blogging now and have been silent in the past. I work in the Auto business. People are not buying cars right now, so I have time to blog.  So, if you want to help the economy...go buy something! Anything!  When we stop or wait, we do the bulk of the damage. So go do your Christmas shopping and help our economy.
We will all benefit from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to stop stiring the pot now!<br />
If you are wondering why I am blogging now and have been silent in the past. I work in the Auto business. People are not buying cars right now, so I have time to blog.  So, if you want to help the economy&#8230;go buy something! Anything!  When we stop or wait, we do the bulk of the damage. So go do your Christmas shopping and help our economy.<br />
We will all benefit from it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1185</link>
		<author>Kathleen</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1185</guid>
		<description>ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.  It is we, people, governments and institutions who create inequality. Civil rights are not just for a select few, or those who believe that their God made the rules.  This is not a moral issue and as such religion has no place in the argument.  I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.  It is we, people, governments and institutions who create inequality. Civil rights are not just for a select few, or those who believe that their God made the rules.  This is not a moral issue and as such religion has no place in the argument.  I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Allison</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1184</link>
		<author>Allison</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1184</guid>
		<description>Pot stirrer!  Pot stirrer!!! :)

I'm just running out the door - but if someone else (Rob :)) doesn't beat me to it, I'll try to find time to respond this afternoon.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pot stirrer!  Pot stirrer!!! <img src='http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just running out the door - but if someone else (Rob :)) doesn&#8217;t beat me to it, I&#8217;ll try to find time to respond this afternoon&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Brett</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1183</link>
		<author>Brett</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1183</guid>
		<description>Would someone share with me 1 instance of equality. In anything? Things are not always equal. Race, gender, religion, education are all dealing with inequality in some form or another.
We live in a world where everyone thinks that they are entitled to equality and fairness. I believe that we "favor" things. Children, a parent, a sibling, etc.  All things being equal, is an oximoron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would someone share with me 1 instance of equality. In anything? Things are not always equal. Race, gender, religion, education are all dealing with inequality in some form or another.<br />
We live in a world where everyone thinks that they are entitled to equality and fairness. I believe that we &#8220;favor&#8221; things. Children, a parent, a sibling, etc.  All things being equal, is an oximoron.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Michelle</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1181</link>
		<author>Michelle</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1181</guid>
		<description>AMEN! Robert!

"Try having your family declared irrelevant, and have the rights and benefits that come with it lost… and then tell me you’d just accept that. You would not! And we will not. We will not accept anything less than full equality."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN! Robert!</p>
<p>&#8220;Try having your family declared irrelevant, and have the rights and benefits that come with it lost… and then tell me you’d just accept that. You would not! And we will not. We will not accept anything less than full equality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Robert</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1180</link>
		<author>Robert</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1180</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay, I’m not in the mood to be in calm waters… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;”I believe that marriage began in the Garden of Eden and was created by God. Man and woman. It is that simple to me. I won’t change what God created.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brett, your beliefs should not interfere with my right to the pursuit of happiness, and to me, you cannot be happy without a family. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My thoughts on your religious views, including the idea that the Garden of Eden was a real place, or that Adam and Eve were real people shouldn’t have to matter to you either. It’s called freedom. Freedom to make your own reality without interference from others who believe differently.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;”I won’t change what God created.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First off, nobody should ever have been in a position to have a hand in changing anything when it comes to another groups right to equal treatement under the law. If the Supreme Court does it’s job, it will throw this proposition out. Individual rights are not to be voted upon. We are not a democracy. It should not matter what the ‘people’ think. It should not matter what you think. We are a constitutional republic, and I hope the court throwing this idiotic proposition out will remind everyone of that. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s nice that you tell you kids things aren’t fair. They haven’t been for us gay people since the beginning of time. You displeasure that your candidate didn’t win means nothing to losing a civil right. Try having your family declared irrelevant, and have the rights and benefits that come with it lost… and then tell me you’d just accept that. You would not! And we will not. We will not accept anything less than full equality. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I’m not in the mood to be in calm waters… </p>
<p>”I believe that marriage began in the Garden of Eden and was created by God. Man and woman. It is that simple to me. I won’t change what God created.”</p>
<p>Brett, your beliefs should not interfere with my right to the pursuit of happiness, and to me, you cannot be happy without a family. </p>
<p>My thoughts on your religious views, including the idea that the Garden of Eden was a real place, or that Adam and Eve were real people shouldn’t have to matter to you either. It’s called freedom. Freedom to make your own reality without interference from others who believe differently.</p>
<p>”I won’t change what God created.”</p>
<p>First off, nobody should ever have been in a position to have a hand in changing anything when it comes to another groups right to equal treatement under the law. If the Supreme Court does it’s job, it will throw this proposition out. Individual rights are not to be voted upon. We are not a democracy. It should not matter what the ‘people’ think. It should not matter what you think. We are a constitutional republic, and I hope the court throwing this idiotic proposition out will remind everyone of that. </p>
<p>It’s nice that you tell you kids things aren’t fair. They haven’t been for us gay people since the beginning of time. You displeasure that your candidate didn’t win means nothing to losing a civil right. Try having your family declared irrelevant, and have the rights and benefits that come with it lost… and then tell me you’d just accept that. You would not! And we will not. We will not accept anything less than full equality. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tears of joy by Allison</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/341#comment-1179</link>
		<author>Allison</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/341#comment-1179</guid>
		<description>I just now discovered your post Jana - thanks!   Can't wait for you to start your own blog....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just now discovered your post Jana - thanks!   Can&#8217;t wait for you to start your own blog&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Allison</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1178</link>
		<author>Allison</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1178</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, you're not the only one... but perhaps the only one brave enough to share them :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm glad you're here though!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re not the only one&#8230; but perhaps the only one brave enough to share them <img src='http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re here though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Brett</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1177</link>
		<author>Brett</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1177</guid>
		<description>I am known for "stiring the pot" in most circles.  I have also been told that I "stir" both ways!  Towards the positive and the negative.  I feel that I am the "lone" person in your blogishere with my views.  I am okay with that.  Thanks for steering me to more neutral waters!  I will turn off my motor and coast for a while.
As for pictures...I will work on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am known for &#8220;stiring the pot&#8221; in most circles.  I have also been told that I &#8220;stir&#8221; both ways!  Towards the positive and the negative.  I feel that I am the &#8220;lone&#8221; person in your blogishere with my views.  I am okay with that.  Thanks for steering me to more neutral waters!  I will turn off my motor and coast for a while.<br />
As for pictures&#8230;I will work on it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Question of Love by Allison</title>
		<link>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1176</link>
		<author>Allison</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/archives/356#comment-1176</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it had more to do with religion than race.  I think what most liberals are blaming are the lies, misinofrmation and fearmongering that went on in regard to campaigning for Prop 8 - 80% of which was funded my Mormons.   Yes, the (religious) black vote was a factor - but I don't think it would have been had churches not actively campaigned and spread misinformation/fear about what it would mean.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fact remains that allowing gay people to marry in no way affects a straight couple's marriage...  it's harm is only in that people are "offended" by it.  (I may be equally offended by certain religious practices, but it deson't give me the right to outlaw them).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But yes...  I agree with Kristin... let's move to safer waters :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it had more to do with religion than race.  I think what most liberals are blaming are the lies, misinofrmation and fearmongering that went on in regard to campaigning for Prop 8 - 80% of which was funded my Mormons.   Yes, the (religious) black vote was a factor - but I don&#8217;t think it would have been had churches not actively campaigned and spread misinformation/fear about what it would mean.  </p>
<p>The fact remains that allowing gay people to marry in no way affects a straight couple&#8217;s marriage&#8230;  it&#8217;s harm is only in that people are &#8220;offended&#8221; by it.  (I may be equally offended by certain religious practices, but it deson&#8217;t give me the right to outlaw them).</p>
<p>But yes&#8230;  I agree with Kristin&#8230; let&#8217;s move to safer waters <img src='http://silenceoftheclams.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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