Okay, that was HILARIOUS!! I think that prop 8 is shuch a crock. Whatever happened to equality?

LOL… I love silly musicals.

John C. Reilly is always a joy to watch. Yes, Kaylyn, Prop 8 is a crock….

if only the religionsists were so vulnerable and stupid…it seems like they are and should be – but so many of them are MBA’s and CEO’s and… (I could go on and on with the acronyms) It galls me that people of intelellect can blindly vote and pay to discriminate. Then again…G.W. was voted in for 8 long years…

I just read an article that said the religious and uneducated were the ones who got Prop 8 passed. It is unfortunate that the religious, with their dirty money, were the ones who funded the lies in the ads that the uneducated believed and embraced. The religious line of attack was, ‘let’s scare the dummies and we’ll get our agenda implemented.”

There are educated religionists, but the type of fundamentalism they were trained to embrace trumps their education. Not only do we have educated persons walking around who oppose gay marriage, but we have educated persons walking around who believe the earth is 6000 years old and that God created it in 6 days.

I didn’t recognize Jack Black in this spoof. Neil Patrick Harris was also in it. There was a link to another one with Molly Ringwald in it that was pretty good…

My favorite ad though, is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJQJBpaCSbQ&watch_response

I understand the LDS church protested this commercial. I cannot fathom why. It is factually accurate. The church, with its resources and activism, literally came into gay homes and peronal lives and ripped a right away from us (symbolized by the rings), and then tore up the marriage contracts (symbolized by Prop 8).. If it seems the ad portrayed Mormons as bullies having the nerve to hurt others… well… if the shoe fits you have to wear it.

The shoe is a perfect fit.

I enjoyed that video, though the ending unfortunately doesn’t quite match reality.

In other Prop 8 news, check out this opinion article from today’s Salt Lake Tribune. I honestly don’t even know what to say about it because it is so absolutely ridiculous to me:

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_11130088

If the court upholds Prop 8, we will have to get over it. And we’ll prepare for 2010 with it on the ballot again.

If the court throws Prop 8 out and re-legalizes gay marriage, it is the Bob Browns of the world who will have to ‘get over it.’

It should be easier for him than us, since he will not have actually lost any rights, but hey….

Funny that he would label the people at a newspaper ‘gay’ just for covering the story.

Mostly I thought it was humorous more than anything else..

Hi Josh: This one sided Salt Lake Media is why we moved. We fought the fight and couldn’t even influence family. We pass the torch. Good luck. The only thing we regret now is not moving to Connecticut. Just kidding, too cold.

For quite awhile this morning this story about the video was on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle site. You can read it here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/04/entertainment/e094438S08.DTL

Also, one the same front page was this article about the Catholic church’s recruiting of the LDS church in the Prop 8 campaign:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/04/BAE814GUON.DTL

“She is risen” I love this video! The articles and letters to the editor of the Salt Lake Tribune opposing Prop’ 8 are bad enough but you should read the online comments that follow! The hatred and foul mouths of our good mormon and christian brothers and sisters is deplorable. Neiderhauer and Monson have worked together for years in Salt Lake. Monson was responsible for getting the church to donate a huge amount of money for the restoration of The Cathedral of The Madeline.
Rob, I bought Sprong’s book and I’m quite impressed by his arguments, although I have not read as much as I would have liked ( I’ve been “under the weather”) Paul, we belong to a family that can only function if reality is denied. In retrospect, I must have driven them nuts!

Kathleen, I’m so glad you bought the book. I hope you are better soon. I’ve been under the weather myself as I had to have a bad tooth cut out. I never in my life thought such a ‘simple’ thing as having a tooth pulled could cause so much pain. Thank God for drugs. I know I od’d the first two days because the pain was intense. I was literally floating.. : )

I’m anxious for your thoughts on his chapter about Paul the apostle. There are two, the first chapter (maybe 7) where he dissects the history of the man Paul, and the 2nd chapter where he lays out the evidence, in Paul’s own writings, that Paul was a gay man. It’s so very clear. And he has a way with writing too.

Rob, take care of yourself. I had a wisdom tooth pulled years ago. The dentist gave me pain pills but no ant-biotics, I developed a serious infection that debilitaed me for over three weeks! Everytime I got out of bed I would take a couple of steps and pass out. Many people don’t realize the potential terrible side effects that can result from a simple tooth extraction.

Yes, he gave me antibiotics for 2 weeks, and I took them. But they did a number on me intestinally. Nasty stuff, but necessary. I had my wisdom teeth taken out in 1985 in the Air Force. I had some sort of reaction where my jaw swelled up and the pressure was so great I could feel my other teeth popping. Massive blood came out of my mouth. They rushed me back up there and they gave me something through an IV that brought the swelling down. But from then until now I haven’t had any problems. Now this year I’ve had 3 root canals and probably 11 fillings replaced. And now the extraction. And they tell me I will need to have an implant there, which will cost about $4000, none of which is covered by insurance. Luckily it is a tooth in the back and the gap can’t be seen, so I guess I can put it off.

Last April or May Javier took me to a very respected (and pricey) Psychic in Manhattan. She is an English lady. I went with an open mind, but took it all with a grain of salt. She made some statements I found interesting. First, she said in the next 12 months I’d have major dental work done. I truly dismissed that as I had never had problems with my teeth, and more than a few dentists I’d gone to over the years said I had the most perfect teeth they’d ever seen. So, this coming true had made me put a little more stock in her.

The 2nd statement she made was to my question as to whether or not gay marriage would remain in California. She asked me to explain as she was unaware of gay marriage being legal in California. I explained the Supreme Court there had legalized it and a challenge in the form of an amendment was now on the ballot in November. She did her thing and went into her trance, and stated ‘gay marriage will stand.’ So, when Prop 8 passed, my immediate thought was ‘she was wrong on that one.’ But if the legal challenge to prop 8 succeeds, then I guess she will still have been right. She was right on the teeth, so I am hoping she is right on this one.

The other thing she said that I’ve thought about alot is the something on the nature of my relationship with my grandson Javiercito, and the reason for the bond we have having to do with previous lives and the relationships we’ve had in the past. Will likely never know about that one for sure, but there is a love I have for him that I’ve never had for anyone else.

Sure hope she is right about marriage in California.