Posted on Aug 4th, 2010 by Allison (Politics / Social Issues)

Yeah!  It appears that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker has ruled that California’s mean-spirited Proposition 8 is unconstitutional, and overturned it.

That’s great news.

The ruling is only a step in the process (as it will surely be appealed) – but it’s a positive step. It gives me hope for my gay and lesbian friends – as well as for the nation as a whole.

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craig on August 4th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

Paul and I are sitting in our hotel room in Vegas for our annual anniversay vacation (15 years!) and can’t tear ourselves away from CNN to go gamble! (and I love to gamble!) We’re walking around our room with tears in our eyes and kissing a lot.

The lady on CNN said it best so far…”Gay marriage has time on it’s side. Young republicans don’t care. It’s their parents and grandparents who are still against us.”

I think the Mormons (and others) should spend all that “old lady tithing money” on feeding the homeless and other causes that ARE worthy of their money.

Kaylyn on August 4th, 2010 at 3:57 pm


Ashley Rae on August 4th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

Yay!! A small step, but definitely a step in the right direction!

Craig- happy 15 years!! What a great anniversary present for you both 🙂

paul on August 4th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

When California allowed same sex couples to marry we were on our way to San Diego to see the grand kids and when we heard it on the radio we cried. We were finally validated. It was almost overwhelming.

Same feeling today.

I almost feel sorry for the people who have always had the right. They never felt the rush of getting something we’ve forever been denied.

Robert on August 4th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Years ago on the old Roundtable site when all the states were passing these amendments to ensure we wouldn’t be treated fairly, I stated that one day they would all be declared unconstitutional. Today was that day. It will be appealed to the Supreme court where I expect we will win (provided the makeup of the court doesn’t change). Kennedy will be the deciding vote. He’s generally conservative but has voted for gay rights consistently. He was the swing vote that ended the anti-sodomy laws and the voter approved discrimination in Colorado.

And he has already laid the foundation for legalizing marriage equality in his ruling to end the anti-sodomy laws…

So, this is the beginning of the end I think to the myth that Americans can just up and vote away the right to equality for a class of citizens the majority don’t like..

And I’m sorry if this sounds nasty, but all those Mormons who refinanced their homes and spent their kids’ college money to get Prop 8 passed.. Well, there is such a thing as Karma and they can just enjoy it now for awhile.

Allison on August 4th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

I was so happy when I got Ashley’s text telling me the news that I actually did a little jig.

I thought of the wonderful relationship… the beautiful MARRIAGE that Paul & Craig share – how well suited they are to each other and rejoiced that it was affirmed today by the courts.

Ashley’s right – what a wonderful anniversary gift for you. Congratulations!

Rob – LOL to Karma. Yeah, I know I shouldn’t make judgments (and try not to – but often fail when it comes oppression of others), but felt really bad and ashamed of some old high school friends when I saw their names on the Prop 8 donor list. One of them spent over $10,000 to try to prevent loving couples like Paul & Craig from marriage. I thought – man, how many starving children could that feed? How much fresh drinking water could that provide? How much shelter could that provide for flood or earthquake victims? What a waste of $… funding hate instead of love.

I love my mormon friends and family, but they are on the wrong side of this issue (if they support denying equality to gays/lesbians due to their private moral view)

Allison on August 4th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Here is a thoughtful analysis of the ruling – great information.

Robert on August 5th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

In reading comments online from people today, I found this post by someone on the HuffingtonPost news site. I really thought it put the ‘debate’ in perfect perspective:

This is the story that my son told me earlier today when he got home from his summer camp for autistic kids.

Picture 6 kids in a circle in which the teacher encourages them to talk about current affairs. Each student is encouraged to talk about a subject, any subject, whether it be news, family, friends, school, etc. for 2 minutes and then the class is invited to ask questions or make comments. It’s a good exercise because it gets kids talking. Talking and conversing among autistic kids is a very important and difficult step to learn and overcome in their struggle to blend in and succeed in modern society.

One of the kids brought up that his parents were really upset about Prop 8 being overturned, because they had rallied with their church (The Rock, here in San Diego — they’re in the same congregation as Carrie Prejean) to pass Prop 8. The reason they’re upset is because, “Mom and Dad said it will make it legal for me to marry a guy now, and they don’t want me to marry a man.”

My son responded, “Well you don’t have to marry a man if you don’t want to. You can still marry a woman, just be sure whoever you marry is somebody you love.”

Did I mention my kid has Autism? So does every child in this summer camp program. It’s funny how even they can cut through the chase and see the meat of the issue.

Kristin on August 6th, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Hooray! This made my day. It is such a long ruling that I haven’t read more than a small part of it so far, but I’m very happy about it. I believe if those who voted for Prop 8 were to actually read the ruling with a little bit of humility, many would feel ashamed of themselves. And those who don’t? Well, I don’t want to go there right now…

Jennifer Pearce on August 9th, 2010 at 8:16 am

How completely refreshing to read that article you linked to! Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I have never heard or read a better argument against Prop 8. Of course it’s all just common sense, but it seems to me that sometimes religion can have a tendency to beat that out of people, unfortunately.

It seems inevitable to me that marriage equality will be a reality very soon.

Happy Anniversary to Paul and Craig!!

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